There’s a nomadic spirit in Jeff Beck’s personality that causes his muse, and often his physical
being, to push on to new frontiers even when the place he’s at would seem to be the
perfect altar for him to preach the gospel of godly guitar. From his Yardbirds era and onward,
Beck has had the habit of changing direction or even completely disappearing just when
the planets seemed perfectly aligned in his favor. But genius rarely follows a road map, and
Beck’s willingness to risk short-term gain in order to make lasting musical statements says
a lot about his integrity and why he’s still out there creating vital and exciting music while many of his peers from the British Invasion generation
haven’t been able to top what they did in the
’60s and ’70s.
Most recently, and after a fairly long hiatus
following the release of his last album
(simply titled Jeff), the Guv’nor surfaced like
a submarine-fired missile to wow the crowd
at the 2007 Crossroads Guitar Festival. And
it wasn’t just his awesome playing that created
the huge buzz; a good deal of the clamor
was due to Beck’s sly enlisting of a very talented—
and also very teenage looking—
bassist named Tal Wilkenfeld to play alongside
veteran rock drummer Vinnie Colaiuta
and keyboardist Jason Rebello. The performances
that followed—including the 25th
Anniversary Concert of the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame at New York’s Madison Square
Garden—were heralded as Beck’s best ever.
In 2009, Beck was inducted for a second time
into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and he
released the platinum-selling Live at Ronnie
Scotts’s DVD, which also garnered him a
Grammy nomination for his instrumental
rendition of the Beatles tune “A Day in the
Life.”
Of course, after all this success, what
else could Jeff Beck to do for an encore other
than completely rearrange the furniture by
launching a new album titled Emotion & Commotion,
which finds him fronting a 64-piece
orchestra on several tunes, including “Over
the Rainbow,” Puccini’s aria “Nessun
Dorma,” and an instrumental redux of Jeff
Buckley’s performance of “Corpus Christi.”
Beck was clearly savoring the surprise factor
when he said, “I think this album will
shock people when they hear it. It’s not what
they expect of me.” During my interview
with him at the Sunset Marquis hotel in
Hollywood, Beck described the new album
this way: “It’s Spector-esque, if you’ll pardon
the expression. It leans more towards
a pop-rock sort of album than would have
been the case if we’d done a classical album,
which would have had to be bowtie- and
put-on-me-tux proper. But it’s not like a
drum and bass record that people can talk
over and drink over. In a lot of clubs, there’s
not one person listening to you, it’s just one
big background noise. I wanted at least an
album that could be listened to and be really
plugged into. Maybe after a long day, you’ll
go sit there and listen to it. It’s got just
enough tweak to get you going, but it’ll lull
you as well.”
Produced by Trevor Horn and Steve Lipson,
and recorded last year at Sarm Studios in
London, Emotion & Commotion showcases
some of Beck’s most beautiful playing ever—
his soaring tones and fluid vibrato making
even such a mournful orchestral tune as
“Elegy for Dunkirk” (from the film Atonement)
something to behold. Like a great opera
singer, Beck delivers every note with such
intense feeling that you may not even care
that there isn’t an abundance of ripping lead
work here. Asked whether he purposely
reduced the notes-to-bar ratio in order to
reveal some deeper elements in his playing,
Beck answered, “Absolutely. I wanted the
beauty to be there without the embellishment.
I didn’t want any showing off. In fact,
I just found it so foreign to try to jump when
it wasn’t necessary to jump. The songs we’re
talking about didn’t require any shredding,
though they’ll probably end up that way if
it becomes a regular format with the orchestra.
When we were making the record, I just
kept saying to myself, ‘don’t get too cheeky.’”
Still, Emotion & Commotion doesn’t entirely
ignore the needs of those who simply crave
a dose of Beck’s fiery guitar playing, which
comes to the fore on the songs “Hammerhead,”
“There’s No Other Me” (featuring
the Colaiuta/Wilkenfeld rhythm section),
and “I Put a Spell on You” (sung by Joss
Stone), where Beck knocks off a killer blues
solo backed by Clive Deamer on drums and
Pino Palladino on bass.
At the end of the day, Emotion & Commotion
stands as an honest and completely
uncontrived statement from one of the most
singularly unique guitarists on the planet.
It speaks to the inner workings of someone
who, despite having some serious misgivings
about the process of making records
(more on this later), obviously loves creating
the aural equivalent of fine art and is
unencumbered by the need to satisfy anyone
but himself and his loyal fans. So as
surprising as Emotion & Commotion is on a
certain level, it hardly seems all that unusual
for Beck, who has a history of turning loose
elements into sonic marvels. As he himself
put it: “Making this album gave me a similar
feeling with somebody else doing the
orchestration and making stuff happen the
way George Martin did on Blow by Blow.
When we started that album we had very
little material as well. After the event, I
started to realize how close it was.”
What are the benefits and downsides of going into
the studio without having the music fully prepared?
The benefit is that you are thrust in. In
some ways it’s better to not be too prepared.
The biggest pitfall there is that you are going
to sound over rehearsed and too contrived.
It’s a weird process to try and remember the
chain of events that led up to how we did
this, but my manager is very forceful, and
he has a way of persuading me to go in unprepared.
“Oh, it’ll be great,” he goes. And the
first two weeks was miserable. Not that the
other players weren’t good, but they were
unsuited to the sort of thing I was looking
for. It wasn’t until I came away that I realized
I’d lost two really good players who just
weren’t on the same wavelength with me.
But you live and learn. It was folly to go in
with a bassist and drummer that I’d never
heard of. It was weird for me that Tal and
Vinnie weren’t there—we should have gone
in with a band situation. Of course, there
was the stuff with just me and the orchestra,
which didn’t require any bass or drums
at all.
Why didn’t you want to use the bassist and
drummer you’d been playing with for that last two
years?
Well, to get them over to England for
three or four tracks just didn’t make sense.
So we ended up doing it without them. But
then we had to fly Tal over to do the bass
part. And to repair some of the drum parts
that were not that great, we actually sent the
producer over to the States to record Vinnie.
So it kind of ended up costing more in
the long run, but at least they’re on the
album, and they did a great job on the tracks.
How does the high expectation that people
have of you affect your creativity?
I’m more than overwhelmed by it, but
that pressure is not the most desirable feeling.
Even though it’s all very complimentary,
I go in the studio with this feeling that I’ve
got to not let these people down. And then,
down comes the big concrete boom on the
head. And if it’s a bad day or a non-productive
day, I start thinking, “I can’t do this.”
The secret, of course, is not to worry about
it and just go in and make the nicest sounds
you can make. And if those sounds move
people, then let it go. But I don’t want to
think about how to impress the world. I’ve
done enough of that, and I think reaching
people is the magic thing now.
What have you been listening to for inspiration?
Lately, I’ve just been listening to opera
singers and other great singers. Not so much
blues, because they’re all about embellishment,
and it’s all in the throat—but someone
like Pavarotti, who has just the most passionate
and full sounding voice. In fact, we
were going to put Puccini’s “O Mio Babbino
Caro” [from the opera Gianni Schicchi] on the
album—it’s just a fantastic song. But that’s
too classical, and I wanted to save it for a
classic album that will hopefully be done
with the London Philharmonic.
What was the reason for doing an album now
that features orchestral pieces but isn’t full-blown
classical?
I had always wanted to see what it would
sound like playing with a really classy string
section. I’d previously made an attempt at
doing a classical album. I wrote a list of about
twelve tracks from composers that I loved—
from Puccini to Ravelle to Mahler—and they
were beautiful songs that lent themselves
to single-note melody. And then I did Gustav
Mahler’s Symphony No. 5 with the New
York Philharmonic. The result was quite
stunning really, so I took it along to EMI
Classics and they fell in love with it. They
asked, “Where’s the rest of it?” And I told
them, “This is it—this is the bait we’re
throwing out.” So they said they’d be interested
if I could do 11 more tracks like that.
They gave me half a dozen fabulous CDs to
listen to, and that’s as far as it ever went.
But I did love the sound and the emotion of
surrounding my guitar with all that instrumentation.
How do you interpret a classical piece in order
to make it more guitar-centric?
I learn the melody completely off path
and I play it like a blues, or as bluesy as I
can. I use artistic license up to a point, but
I can’t stand listening to people do covers of
great songs who think they can write better
than the original composer. If the melody
was worth having in the first place, then
leave it alone. If you play it with all the feeling
but without any embellishments, then
sometimes you can slip around a little bit.
But with a great piece you just don’t. If the
melody was crafted well enough to go with
the chords, then the job’s done.
What’s the biggest challenge of arranging a
song to play with an orchestra?
First of all, can I pull it off live? You need
to make sure the song can be played live,
otherwise you’re going to get yourself into
big ditch and never get out of it—especially
if you’ve got Olympic leaps all over the place
and stuff like that. It’s got to be played in
the way the blues would be played. It has to
feel that natural.
Your tones on this album are beautiful. What
amps did you use?
I’ve found that my best friend is the
straight-ahead amplifier with very little effect
pedal. If distortion is needed, I’ll use a much
smaller amplifier and overload that rather
than use a pedal to alter the circuitry. When
you go through a pedal you’re going through
some guy’s circuit before it gets to the amp.
I want the amplifier to get the most honest
and direct signal from the pickup. That way,
you get the tonal advantage of the guitar and
the fingers. I’ve adhered to that, and I think
you can hear it on the album without any
B.S., except for a couple places where I used
a ring modulator—like for two bars on the
Joss Stone track “There’s No Other Me”. You
know, Jimi Hendrix didn’t use too much of
that either. He used one effects pedal and a
Crybaby wah-wah, and he just cranked the
hell out of his amplifiers.
Why did you switch to Marshall plexi reissues,
which have less gain than the JCM2000s you had
been using?
I was looking for purity of tone so it
wouldn’t jar with the orchestra. I couldn’t
hear a shred tone like Steve Vai gets, or even
Brian May or Billy Gibbons, who have these
very fat, distorted guitar tones. I just couldn’t
really see that working, so I tried to get
the sound of my guitar as natural and organic
as it could be. Like on “Over the Rainbow”
or “Elegy for Dunkirk,” those are just right
honest performances with just me and the
orchestra.
You still get a lot of sustain on those tracks,
so is that the Marshall turned way up?
No, it was a Fender Champ. I joked once
about making an entire album with a Champ,
and I just about did that this time. In a couple
of places there’s a 50-watt Marshall with
a 4x12 speaker cabinet, and I think that’s on
“Lilac Wine” and “Corpus Christi.” Those
songs were done in the studio live with a
mic placed several feet away. But when we
got into the overdubs I just ended up with
a Champ. Mine is a 1950s model with that
brown rag across the front, the tweed, you
know? It sounds amazing really, and you
don’t need volume. Some people can’t do
without lots of volume to get their tone, but
I think if you can’t get it without four million
watts, something’s wrong. Because a
mic doesn’t read volume, it reads tone. You’ve
got all the level in the world at your disposal
in the console, and the remixing and the rest
of it to compensate for lack of power. But
the tone is the thing, and that’s something
that came from Scotty Moore, who once told
me, “Get some better tone and you’re there—
volume you don’t need.”
Can the small-amp/less-volume concept work
for live playing?
By using the P.A. to act in the way it was
designed—which is play at low level and use
all the distortion and whatever else you need,
but make sure you don’t come out louder
than the side-fill monitors or the front
wedges—you can blow the house down, and
I’ve done it. I’ve done a whole tour with a
Fender Twin when Stevie Ray Vaughan was
going through about four billion watts with
a rig that looked like an amp shop. He asked
me, “What the hell are you using? Are your
amps under the stage?” I said, “Nope, that’s
it right there.’ [Laughs.] But we spent quite
a lot of time dialing in the sound and getting
rid of the squeaks and squeals. We’d
raise the level and then tweak it a little bit,
and then we’d raise it a little more. You can’t
believe what you can get out of a little tenor
20-watt amp. I think Billy Gibbons is on
that route as well, as he plays though some
blown-up little thing now. You have to work
in symphony with the amp for what sounds
best, and it depends on what you’re playing.
If it’s power chords, then you’d probably use
a slightly bigger amp, otherwise it’ll shred
down into a narrow bandwidth. Most of the
time, though, you can get away with a couple
of Champs—one clean, one distorted—
and use the clean one to get more definition.
What has led you to being more concerned
about volume?
The louder the stuff is on stage, probably
the worse it’s going to end up sounding.
Your hearing goes, your pitch goes, and you
can’t really hear any depth of field. If you
have to question whether it’s too loud, then
it is too loud. The power has to be there, but
without the level. But if you’re going to be
loud, get the speakers away from you. Lately,
I’ve been one putting one 4x12 facing backwards,
just so that the P.A. guy doesn’t go
around the bend with too much volume. I’ve
also seen Pete Townshend with a stack of
Fenders facing each other like a sandwich,
so the audience only gets the back of it.
Sounded great to me, but I haven’t gone that
far. On a big stage, I might put four Marshalls
up there, like two big stacks, and have
them right at the back just to see what they
sound like wide open. But they’d have to be
damn deep in the stage so there’s not too
much spillover. I’ll try that on this tour, but
I’ve got a feeling that the little Champ will
win out because the orchestra and the
Champ are going to sound in proportion. I
played with this powerful band that had 18
pieces, and I thought I’d need a Marshall for
it, but I didn’t; I needed a Pignose. Even
though the trumpets and the horns were
blasting away, the difference in character of
the guitar with that concentrated trebly
sound just cut right through.
Did you use anything other than a Strat on this
album?
I went through about five different guitars,
and they all got put back on the rack.
We did one song with a Gretsch and some
with Guild even, but they just didn’t sound
like me. I picked the Strat back up and, boom,
there I am again. So why go against it?
Since you play with your fingers do you use
heavier gauge strings?
My guitar is strung pretty lightly now
because I haven’t played live for a while. But,
by mid tour, I’ll go to a .012 on the first and
a .052 on the bass. It’s self-torture, but you’ve
got have that. The great Jimi Hendrix picked
up my guitar once and he said, “What are
these rubber bands doing here? You’ll never
get tone out of that.” I was really disappointed
because I thought I had found what
I was comfortable with. But he was right;
there was no guts in there. And there was
no effort. The half of playing blues is you
have to suffer the pain of the wire digging
into your fingers. And the more you play,
the harder your fingers get and the fatter
your strings can get.
What were you playing when Hendrix said that
to you?
A Les Paul, which is kind of a sissy guitar
compared to a Strat anyway. The Les Paul
is heavier, but because of that bulk you can
do bends on it more easily. Also, the Les
Paul’s lack of a vibrato arm means you’re
not wrestling against the spring-loaded
bridge all the time. The Strat is the ultimate
because it’s like having a miniature pedal
steel within it. Once you get familiar with
where the bends are and where they meld
down into a fourth or whatever, you can do
all kinds of pedal-steel-like things, which I
think are cool. Some of the things that sound
the most difficult are the easiest for me.
Despite having your Strat set up with a floating
vibrato, you don’t ever seem to touch the
tuners, let alone switch guitars during a show. How
do you stay in tune?
Sometimes it’ll goes out if it’s a wild gig
like Crossroads where there’s like 40,000
people and I go shredding all over the stage.
But unless those situations happen, the guitar
stays pretty much in tune. The strings
are pre-stretched to start, and they’re
stretched to almost the breaking point before
I go on. Then they’re retuned and retuned.
So far, I’ve been lucky. I’ve broken a few, but
it’s more likely a flaw in the string somewhere
around the bridge area that causes it
to break rather then me playing it. But I do
drive them pretty hard. Also, the roller nut
that I designed seems to work pretty well—
especially for the top three strings, which
stay in tune really well. It has a double roller
system, so the strings go over two rollers,
and for some reason they don’t hitch up.
Because you get a lot of lateral movement
when you depress the tremolo arm—the
string actually moves across the nut—and
sometimes it doesn’t come all the way back,
and then you’re in trouble.
The way you use the vibrato on “Over the Rainbow”
it sounds like you were actually trying to
mimic the warble in Judy Garland’s voice.
That’s what I tried to do. It started out as
a bit of tongue-in-cheek thing, but when I got
halfway through, the whole place was soaked
in tears. Vinnie is a tough guy, but even he
was going, “Jeff, stop. I can’t bear it!”
The melody you came up with for “Elegy for
Dunkirk” is even more of a tearjerker.
That’s probably the deepest thing I’ve
ever done. I picked that melody out from the
original score. I haven’t seen the film Atonement,
but I’m pretty sure I know what I’m
going to see, as it’s the end of the Dunkirk
landing. When I heard it, I thought first of
all that it was an ensemble piece for the violins
and cellos. But I picked out the melody
and made it a really nice piece. I altered it
by putting my guitar voices in a different
spot, though. I played it up an octave to get
away from the down-in-the-dumps kind of
thing. It’s still a bit dirgy, though—a pretty
sad thing.
Were there any concerns about putting “Corpus
Christi” as the first song on the album?
Because you’re expecting shred and it
doesn’t happen? That one and “Lilac Wine”
sort of set the mood for the album. When I
heard Jeff Buckley’s versions of those songs,
I was touched because they’re so gorgeous.
“Corpus Christi” is a traditional tune from
the sixteenth century, and my dear friend
and wife said to me, “That melody is the
most beautiful thing I’ve ever heard. Please
do it.”
Did you originally intend “Hammerhead” to be
a tribute to Jan Hammer?
That’s an interesting story. About a year
ago I was sitting around a campfire with
Dave Gilmour and I said to him, “If we do
the Royal Albert Hall, why don’t you come
and play?” Well, he kept me to it, and so at
the gig I suggested we do the song
“Jerusalem,” which is very English sounding.
He said, “Why don’t we do ‘Hi Ho Silver
Lining’—it’ll bring the house down?” I told
him, “Not on your life.” So he goes, “What
if I sang it?” So I said to Jason [Rebello],
“Look, we’re going to do ‘Silver Lining,’ but I don’t want to do that stomping, chingching-
ching rhythm thing.” So he said,
“Right, leave it to me.” He knows how much
I love Jan Hammer—and Jason’s a huge fan
too—so he came up with a very Hammeresque
sort of riff for it. And that’s the riff
we played at the Royal Albert Hall concert,
which made it sound much more modern.
We salvaged the riff from that song and then
Jason rewrote the melody to get away from
“Hi Ho Silver Lining.” The whole song was
very inspired by Jan, and that’s why I called
it “Hammerhead.”
What kind of wah did you use on the intro to
that song?
It’s the Snarling Dogs Super Bawl, which
is not really an annoying wah-wah. It just
opens an envelope in a very subtle way, and
the sweep is not going to take your head off
in full treble like a Crybaby will. I use the
wah to take the top off the guitar—most of
the top anyway—so you’ve got a voice
appearing. You see, I’m trying to be a singer.
On “Never Alone” are those actual voices that
you hear in the backing tracks?
I wanted to do some close harmonies on
that song. One of my favorite close-harmony
groups is the Mystery Voices of Bulgaria, who
I’ve loved for like 15 or 20 years. Their harmonies
are just above all reach of
understanding. So I said to Jason, “Why don’t
you throw some really good voice samples on
a pad and let’s listen to how I sound with
voices only.” And it was much more interesting
than a cheesy string pad or a Fender Rhodes
pad. Soon as you get into these individual
voices played with these complex chord shapes,
your head starts going places, and that’s the
result. The riff is powerful and you’ve got 30
strings playing the riff along with these amazing
big chords. The voices just ring better than
any other instrument, but, because of their
lightness, you can put the levels up and they
don’t rob too many frequencies.
Was it your idea to run the ’50s standard “Lilac
Wine” and the operatic aria “Nessun Dorma”
together almost as a single piece?
No Steve Lipson did that. I can’t praise
him enough. I mean he put up with me for
three and a half months, and I think he wondered
what the hell he had gotten involved
with after a couple of weeks because I tend
to loathe everything.
Why do you think that is?
I hate making that commitment and then
going home and not feeling like I’d actually
done anything. And the money clock’s going
by and it’s like, “Oh god.” This is all a load
of crap anyway because everything is phony,
the whole thing—you’ve got another chance
at the solo. In the early days, the rockabilly
acts used to learn the stuff and go in and
count it off—“one, two, three.” That’s what
I like. I’ll never get that out of my blood.
But you could make records that way if you
wanted to, right?
It’s a question of being forced or cajoled into it by the fact that recording techniques
now are different. Everything is safe and
you’ve got choices. They can pitch correct
your voice and put your instrument
through virtual this, that, and the other
plug-ins. And it’s all there. What amp do
you want? All right, bonk, and up it comes,
and it’s a bitch of an old Marshall. There’s
too much assistance and not enough
hard-edged, “C’mon, what have you got?”
There’s a microphone, you’ve got the
amplifier, there’s the take, go and play.
And that’s what I really like, and I miss
that. That way you’re on your toes right
away and you know that you’re going to
succeed or fail. And if you don’t succeed
you go back and try again. The way I’m
describing is that Pro Tools draws you to
a place that you don’t want to be and it
makes you stay there because it actually
gives you something that you shouldn’t
have, which is a sort of flattery: the fact
that you were sounding like crap a minute
ago and now you don’t. So I don’t like that.
And I tried to make this album sound like
we could play it, and I’m damn sure we
can play it. It’s always in the back of my
mind: “How are we going to do this?”
I understand that “There’s No Other Me” had
to be altered in the studio because you knew you
couldn’t pull it off live?
Yes. Jason wrote the two parts for that
song and he wanted me to play the long sustaining
notes that make the basis of the
melody, and, in-between those lines, I was
supposed to shred. The problem was that
we couldn’t really perform it because of the
overlap—I’d have to stop playing the long
notes in order to play a solo. So Joss Stone
was around and she’s fantastic, so I said
“Look, just come in, you can’t lose—we’ve
got a track that’s smoking, and it’s wide open
for you.” So she sat there and about an hour
later she’d written these lyrics. And what a
performance! I was sitting down watching
her because I didn’t want to get in the way,
and she had a backless dress on. And I’m
telling you, that was the most erotic, beautiful
sight I’ve ever seen. The muscles she
was using, and everything about her breathing—
it was just an amazing sight. I wish I
had filmed it. I can’t wait to play it now,
which means we’re going to have to carry
her on the road.
Your performance on the Live at Ronnie Scott’s
DVD is quite outstanding. Was it pressurizing for
you to perform on camera in a small room with a
bunch of heavyweight players in the audience?
Slightly, especially when you’ve got a
couple of really beautiful Asian girls looking
up your nose, and their drinks are about
an inch away from your feet. [Laughs.] It’s
a pretty compact little place, and I didn’t eat
for four days during that—literally, not a
thing. I get closer to who I am when I’m not
eating. Food is distancing for me. You’ve
got to be starving and really miserable, and
then you play well.