If everyone in Nashville knows the name of
a guitarist, that’s really saying something.
In a town where every fry cook is seemingly
the best picker you’ve ever heard, it takes a
lot to get noticed. But that’s what happened
to Johnny Hiland when he moved to Music
City in the mid ’90s. He got a gig his first
night in town and instantly turned heads and
kicked butts with his jaw-dropping brand
of hot-rod country that comes from the
Lee/Gatton/Skaggs camp with some rock,
shred, jazz, and blues thrown in for good
measure. And when the GP staff showed
up in town for a Summer NAMM show a
couple of years later, the question everyone
on Honky Tonk Row asked us was, “Have
you heard Johnny Hiland yet?” We heard
him that night alright. Since then he’s seen
his star rise with records, clinics, endorsements,
and high-profile jams with some of
the most monstrous players on the planet.
It’s Hiland’s high-octane hybrid picking
that gets the most attention due to its
uncanny precision, impeccable time, and
blazing speed. Once the dust settles from
one of his rapid-fire breaks, however, Hiland
reveals a deep knowledge of Western Swing,
blues rock, and ungodly multi-string bends
that can conjure pedal-steel, train whistles,
cat meows, and more. Hiland’s amazing
chops grabbed the attention of Steve Vai,
who signed him and released his self-titled
debut in 2004. The only super-chops blessing
that could possibly mean more than Vai’s
is that of Mike Varney, who knows burning
guitar talent when he hears it. When Varney found out that Hiland was a free agent, he
jumped at the chance to get him on Shrapnel
Records—another stellar addition to the
label’s virtuosic roster that has included
Yngwie, Paul Gilbert, Jason Becker, Vinnie
Moore, and many more. The results are
on All Fired Up, which teams Hiland with
bassist Stu Hamm and drummer Jeremy
Colson. The album features a heapin’
helpin’ of Hiland’s chicken pickin’ skills, plus some heavy rock, Bakersfield country,
and melodic pop. Visiting with Hiland
and Varney at Prairie Sun Studios, where
the album was tracked, it was clear that
Hiland is one of the biggest guitar geeks
on the planet—a guy who loves nothing
more than sitting around talking gear, guitarists,
technique, and tone for hours. He
plugged in and played along with some of
the album’s tunes and floored everyone in the room in the process. “I swear, we could
have released the first day’s rehearsal runthrough,”
said Varney. “That’s how good
this guy is.”
Talk about the recording process for All Fired
Up.
I’ve always done pre-production demos
and even played a few songs live before I
went to do a record. This time I took a different
approach. I wrote charts and we did
two days of rehearsals before we started to
track. I’ve never done that before. We had
fun and got to know each other as musicians.
I think that really helped because
we tracked all 13 songs in one day. We just
went in and slammed them down.
The main melody for the title track has a really
relaxed feel. Some players with huge chops and
great time tend to be on top of the beat or they
might even rush the groove. Yet, you’re able to
sit back in the pocket.
My dad was a drummer in the ’60s and
I have a great love for drums. I still love
to play drums and I think it really helps
when it comes to your guitar playing. I
know many guitar players will sit with a
metronome, but being a drummer helped
me to be able to understand what the
groove is supposed to be. I think a lot of
people expect Johnny Hiland the chicken
picker to be right on top of the beat, and
I’m kind of surprised I wasn’t on top of the
beat because I was so happy and excited
to be in the studio with Stu and Jeremy.
But if I tried to play the title track on top
of the beat, it just wouldn’t sound good. It
wouldn’t have the vibe that it does.
You use a lot of open strings in the melody,
but the song is in F#. That’s a great rock and
metal key but not a typical country key. Tell me
how you’re employing the open strings.
That was accidental. I really love open
string licks. Even as a guitar teacher and
giving lessons I tell students don’t be afraid
to open up and experiment with open
strings because you’ll be amazed at what
you can find. It’s invigorating when I find
a lick that works. I started messing around one night while watching TV and I just happened
to hit the first three notes of the main
melodic lick. I went, “Oh man, that’s really
cool!” Being in the key of F# did limit things
in a way but there was such a cool sound
with that dominant 7th ring. It just kind of
grabbed a hold of me and wouldn’t let go.
“Minor Adjustment” has some of your killer
string bends in it. You get a lot more press for
your picking chops, but talk a little bit about how
important bends are to what you do.
They’re massively essential to me. The
three main elements that make up the majority
of my playing would be steel-guitar bends, double-stops, and open-string licks. But I
think bends allow you to be more free—
more free in your soul where you can allow
a bend to stretch a little further than a double-
stop for example. So bends let me pour
my soul into a solo to where it doesn’t sound
so note-y. I can take my time with what I’m
trying to say.
How would you recommend players get better
at string bends?
It’s a matter of practicing preciseness, so
if you’re going to bend a whole tone, make
sure you can execute that every single time
without really thinking about it. Some players
say that with blues you can be all over the
map with bends, and that’s true. Sometimes
you can overreach a bend and it sounds cool
and emotional because it’s a blues tune. But
for me, when it comes to chicken pickin’,
you really have to be precise. I’m not going
to lie to you, it’s a pain in the butt to sit and
practice the preciseness of a certain bend
over and over and over again. It’s not fun,
but at the same time, when you’re at a gig
and you execute that bend and you nail it
every single time, then you know that your
practice is working. Once you have the precision
down cold, you can add all the emotion
and feeling you want.
Can you explain how you you’re bending at
2:19 in “Bluesberry Jam”?
That’s a really cool bend that I’ve been
adding to my repertoire that uses a steel-guitar
approach. I wanted to sound like Buddy
Emmons on steroids with five distortion
pedals going. I’m in the key of C, and I’m
basically fretting a G at the 12th fret of the
G string and a Bb at the 11th fret of the B
string. But then I bend the G up to an A, or
from the 5 to the 6 while I’m still holding
the flat 7—the Bb—which is real dissonant
sounding. When you do that, your amp will
sometimes grab the harmonic and the vibrations
of everything just cause massive chaos
within your amp and bring out weird overtones.
What I’m doing after that is adding my
third finger down on the high E string, and
I bounce off the 4, the 3, and the b3 to kind
of bring it back to the country sound. That
lick really will tweak the ear. It’s a unique
and fun thing to do.
What was the signal chain that you used to
create the tones on this record?
I cut the whole album with my Ernie Ball Music Man Silhouette with D. Allen pickups
and my Bolt amplifier. I’m using the Bolt
2x12 combo. It’s a three-channel amp that’s
just monstrous. Since I’ve had that amp I’ve
been downsizing my pedalboard because I
really haven’t needed as many pedals. On my
pedalboard I have a Boss TU-3 tuner, I have
a Wampler Ego Compressor, a brand new
pedal called the Red Shift that was created
by a guy named Brad Jetter—that’s what I’m
using mostly for distortion, although I cut
“Forever Love” with the new Sparkle Drive
Mod from Voodoo Lab. I have an ISP Decimator,
which takes all of the excess noise
out of my rig. I’m using a Boss Tremolo, an
Arion Chorus—E.W.S. re-released the old
Arion Chorus through Xotic. It has the Vibe
section and that’s what I use to get a rotary
sound. I end the chain with a DigiTech Hardwire
Delay and I’m using the Voodoo Lab
Pedal Power 2 to power everything.
Is it at all strange for you to find yourself on
Shrapnel Records?
After signing with them, no. Prior to
that, yeah, I thought it was a little interesting.
But I’ve been a big fan of Mike Varney
for a long time and I have a lot of Shrapnel
records in my collection. I had the Yngwie
Steeler album. I don’t own it now because
I wore the thing out. I had a lot of Vinnie
Moore, some Tony MacAlpine, some early
Paul Gilbert, Scott Henderson—I could go
on for days. So to get the chance to even
talk to Mike Varney about signing with him
was an honor. I think it’s all about the passion
we all share for guitar. I was with Steve
Vai before, and he has a massive passion for
guitar. Mike Varney does too. The lineage
of what they’ve both created is amazing,
and I’m proud to be a part of it. So I’m very
thrilled to be with Shrapnel and I’m so tickled
that we’ve accomplished what we have
in such a short time.
With all the chops that you’ve got and all the
licks you have under your fingers, what do you
find difficult on guitar?
I’ve been having this massive love for jazz
and I really have a problem with it in my mind
I love that whole distorted style jazz that
Frank Gambale would play or Scott Henderson
and the Vital Tech Tones, some Michael
Landau stuff. I love that whole side of jazz,
but yet I also love the bounciness and I guess
in some ways the aggressive side of bebop
jazz like the way Jimmy Bruno would play.
But I’m really fighting with myself because
as a chicken picker you tend to play in a very
pentatonic-based style. It’s very in the box.
You never really think outside. Right now
I’m kind of messing around with how outside
the box I want to get. That’s why I’ve added
a lot of chromaticism recently to my playing.
There’s a side of me that’s really wanting to
delve into the outside the box thing. I’m a
bit scared to do that. So I’d say that’s where
I’m struggling with myself right now is how
far do I want to get into that and how much
would it affect what I’m doing.
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