IT’S TOUGH TO PIGEONHOLE JIM CAMPILONGO. He plays a Tele, attacking
pedal-steel and behind-the-nut bends with
psychedelic fervor. He’ll pay homage to
Roy Buchanan with tone-pot swells, and
then dive into a Travis-picking groove,
complete with banjo rolls and shimmering
harmonics. He is equally at home
playing ballads or digging into raging,
feedback-spiked solos, and he’s probably
the only guitarist to claim both Chet
Atkins and the Sex Pistols as primary influences.
Campilongo has recorded eight albums
as a bandleader—including three with ace
pedal-steeler Joe Goldmark—toured and
recorded with Norah Jones in the Little
Willies, and played lead guitar in Martha
Wainwright’s band. His new album Orange
[Blue Hen] is an audacious mix of styles
and sounds that includes snarling Tele
instrumentals tracked with his trio, acoustic
duets with Steve Cardenas on nylon-string,
and a dark, solo chord-melody treatment
of “When You Wish Upon a Star.” Orange
also features haunting duets with vocalist
and guitarist Leah Siegel, in which the pair
explore the Rolling Stones’ “No Expectations”
and “No Fun” by the Stooges. Tying
it all together is Campilongo’s edgy musicality.
Did you approach Orange differently from your
earlier albums?
In the past, I’d just set up with the
band and plow through the tunes. My
previous albums weren’t made carelessly,
but I’d never consciously tried to make a
great guitar record. That was my goal this
time, so I started by revisiting albums I
find musically and sonically inspiring.
This included Jeff Beck’s Blow by Blow and
Wired, A Session with Chet Atkins, the
Who’s Live at Leeds, Visions of the Emerald
Beyond by the Mahavishnu Orchestra, and
a record I’ve been amazed by my entire
life called Julie Is Her Name, which features
Barney Kessel accompanying Julie
London. I always thought Never Mind the
Bollocks, Here’s the Sex Pistols was a great
sounding guitar record, so it was in the
stack too. Anton Fier—who did an amazing job
as Orange’s producer—and I had listening
parties and long conversations about
what particular tracks sounded like and
why they were exciting. We toured a number
of New York studios looking for one
where I could stand next to the drums
and have my guitar blasting as loud as I
wanted. I didn’t want to hear, “We’ll put
your amp in a huge Anvil case,” or “You’ll
use headphones because that way we’ll
get a great drum sound.” Eventually, we
chose Brooklyn Recording and tracked
for three days in a good-sized room. The
record is almost all live, even when you
think it isn’t.
Orange spans a vast musical terrain.
The way I see it, you have two options.
You can make a record that’s a really good
hang—like Kind of Blue by Miles Davis,
which explores various aspects of one
mood—or you can make a record that’s
diverse. I opted for the latter, though my
fear was it might sound disjointed or turn
into a business-card record—the kind of
CD guitar players give you: Joey does Jerry
Reed, Joey does ZZ Top, Joey does the
Jimmy Smith organ trio. On Orange,
there’s my Roy Buchanan stuff, a Chet
Atkins thing, quiet acoustic and loud electric
tones, Leah’s vocal tracks, and a jazzy
solo-guitar piece. So it’s very diverse, yet
I think these sounds weave together as a
unit. I hope so.
In “I’m Helen Keller and You’re a Waffle
Iron,” you play a stuttering rhythm riff that’s
reminiscent of “How Soon Is Now?” by the
Smiths with guitarist Johnny Marr. Do you know
that song?
Oh my God, do I know that song? It’s
fantastic! I heard he was playing through
three or four Fender Twins—set incredibly
loud—and had guys standing there
to adjust the vibrato speed when an amp
got out of rhythm. Actually, I was trying
to do “Baba O’Riley” because I’ve really
gotten into the Who this year.
You’re playing the riff manually with no
effects, right?
Yeah. You could kick me out of bed at
3:00 in the morning, hand me a Telecaster,
and I could play the riff. But tracking it
in the studio? I can’t believe I got it. That
was take 2; I broke a nail on my picking
hand in take 1, which made the song even
trickier to play. I love how at the end
there’s a long feedback note and you hear
my belt buckle hitting the guitar. Looking
back, I’m surprised I didn’t go,
“Whew, we got this take, so I’d better
play it safe and get out now. No—I let
that note feed back and even started tapping
the body.
“Fingerpuppet” sounds like Link Wray
meets Roy Buchanan.
I was trying to write a Led Zeppelin
song. But in the middle section where I
detune my sixth string, my reference
point is Agarta, the live Miles Davis album from 1975 with Pete Cosey on guitar. I’ve
been listening to that record since I was a
teenager.
You do a psycho version of Chet Atkins in
“Awful Pretty, Pretty Awful.”
This happens to me a lot. People say, “Wow,
you’re a madman,” and I’ll think, “Really?” I
obviously hear some of the playfulness and
humor in my music, but to me, “Awful Pretty”
sounds regal. Granted, the bridge is a departure,
but I wanted that section to be a different
island. I’m inspired by standards like “Smoke
Gets in Your Eyes,” which goes up a half-step
from the V chord into a new key [sings the bridge
melody]. That’s also true of “Easy Living,” even
though it starts in a minor key, and “In a Sentimental
Mood” has a similar modulation. I’m
attracted to those bridges, yet when I write
that way, folks react with, “Whoa, where did
you go?”
Do you study standards to expand your
harmonic knowledge?
Yes. I find it a little boring when music
is all about emitting emotion. It’s fine and
dandy to stand on your tip-toes and sing
like it’s your last night on Earth, but sometimes
when I hear contemporary music I
wish it was written with a deeper understanding
of progressions. One thing I like
about the Beatles is they played a lot of standards
in the Hamburg days, and that gave
them—Paul McCartney especially—a knowledge
of harmony. Working through standards is a great way
to discover new ideas. Yesterday I was playing
“Stella by Starlight,” trying to retain one
note in the highest voice as I navigated the
changes, and I found a beautiful new way
to play a II-V. But I certainly feel humble in
my knowledge compared to someone like
Jim Hall. What does he know about chord
progressions that I don’t?
Tell us about the gear you used for Orange.
On the trio tracks, I played my ’59
Telecaster—which I string with a D’Addario
.009-.042 set—through a silverface Princeton
Reverb equipped with a Jensen C10N speaker. For “Awful Pretty,” I used a new
Gretsch 6120 Chet Atkins with a Bigsby
that’s modified so I can run the strings
through the roller, rather than slipping their
ball ends over those pesky pins. I played a
Martin 0-15 on all the acoustic tracks. To me
it’s the Telecaster of acoustic guitars. It’s little,
it’s loud, it cuts, and you can drape your
arm over the body and smother it—not like
a huge Guild, where your shoulder goes in
your ear. For the looping effects in “No Fun,”
I used a Line 6 DL4.
You have a new signature model Telecaster
that’s based on your ’59. What are some of the features
that make it special?
My ’59 is a top-loader—the strings run
through the back of the bridge plate, rather
than through the body. Top-loaders sound a
little mellower. I hate that “punish the audience”
Telecaster tone, and I find it happens
less with a top-loader. The strings feel a little
more rubbery too, which makes string
bending and behind-the-nut bends a bit easier.
The bridge has three threaded steel
saddles. Most Tele players love smooth brass
saddles, but to me, the strings can slip
around and change their spacing too easily
on them. With threaded saddles, my string
spacing stays consistent. There’s a lot of thumb wear on my ’59
neck. I’m really used to it, and others who
play my guitar seem to like it too. So Dave
Brown at the Fender Custom Shop in Corona
took measurements with putty and duplicated
the neck shape exactly, including the
wear. The fretboard has jumbo wire, and
both the neck and body have a very light finish.
I played the prototype on a recent tour
of Italy and it sounded great. Which is good,
because after 15 years of hard service, my
’59 is about ready to retire.
What about pickups?
That was an arduous, yearlong journey. I
tried dozens of pickups, including an original
’53 bridge pickup, which I found too bright
and not dynamic enough. That was a real
shocker. I’d play through ten or 12 different
amps to evaluate each pickup.
What were you looking for?
When I crank up the amp, I want to hear
overtones and my belt buckle rubbing against
the Tele’s back. I call this a “second voice.”
The neck pickup was hardest to nail. Everybody
loves Fender’s Twisted Tele neck pickup,
but to me, it’s too beefed up. I’m after a
smoky, wooly sound that makes you work a
bit. And I want a dual-pickup tone that doesn’t
have a “straight-into-the-board” quality.
Just last week Fender sent me yet another
neck pickup, and we finally got it.
It must be exciting to have a signature guitar.
It is. For one thing, it’s so much easier
to play a new guitar. My ’59’s fretboard has
some divots that are so deep I can’t bend out
of them. And the jumbo frets I put on the
’59 years ago are now worn lower than
Fender’s original small frets. I’m playing
things on the prototype that would be very
difficult, if not impossible on my ’59. And of course, it’s an honor to have a signature-
model Fender. Maybe this will lead
some guitarists to investigate my music—that’s the goal. Ultimately, I’m doing this so
more people can hear my playing and hopefully
be moved by it.