WHILE PREPPING FOR MY SIT-DOWN WITH THE
Killers’ Dave Keuning by perusing previous
exposés on the Las Vegas-based pop quartet, I
began to notice a remarkable trend. It seems
most every music journalist who interviews a
Killer (including those from other guitar magazines)
is rather keen to point out the trendy
Vegas Strip nightspot, swanky hotel bar, or bigcity
hipster hangout where the conversation is
taking place. I’m guessing this is because the
Killers have arguably become the “it” band
among rock’s cognoscenti since their 2004
debut Hot Fuss’ unique blend of ’80s-style synthpop
anthems and post-punk grit resonated
strongly with both the music press and a mass
audience. Factor in a headlining turn at the
Glastonbury Festival, an appearance on the hit
television series The O.C., the artistically ambitious
yet commercially viable sophomore effort
Sam’s Town, various Grammy nominations and
Brit Awards victories, and frontman/keyboardist
Brandon Flowers’ Bono-like charisma with the
media, and you begin to understand why the
Killers rank pretty high on the “see-and-beseen”
scene.
But lest we allow hype to supersede inventive
musicianship and great songwriting, I
cordially invite GP readers to turn to page 142
of the January 2008 issue and have a go at Keuning’s
digit-distending, string-skipping intro to
the Killers’ breakthrough hit, “Mr. Brightside.”
To my ears that lick, along with much of Keuning’s
textural pop proclivity on the band’s 2008
CD Day and Age and recently released DVD Live
from Royal Albert Hall, has its stylistic antecedent
in the approach of Police guitarist Andy Summers.
Like Summers, Keuning is a schooled
6-stringer. He played in his high school jazz
ensemble, majored in music while in college,
and used to practice sight-reading daily, employing
his chops and formal knowledge in a search
for new creative vistas—and cool new chord
shapes—while remaining within what is essentially
a Top-40 format.
Forget about cruising down Las Vegas Boulevard.
The hippest thing about hanging out with
Dave Keuning was the fact that throughout our
entire interview his guitar never left his hands
as he either subconsciously ran scales by rote
while ruminating on an answer, or actively
demonstrated the finer points of his compositional
approach.
Day and Age is probably the least guitar-heavy record
the Killers have made. How did you go about claiming
sonic space for yourself alongside Brandon
Flowers’ keyboards?
This album isn’t perceived as much of a guitar
record, but there are all these ambient guitar
sounds that our producer Stuart Price had me
do, like this [plays droning D octave shape].
Then maybe on another track he’d have me
play something else, like this [plays a sparse,
double-stop lick in D major). And a few times
he just hit the record button and said, “Surprise
me.” Later he mixed these tracks together
and sort of buried them in the final mix. Also,
a lot of sounds that people might think are keyboards
are actually guitar.
Like the hypnotic palm-muted opening lick to
“Human”?
Yes. That’s actually me playing the whole
way through. After our initial meeting with
Stuart to discuss the possibility of him producing
Day and Age, Brandon and I went back to
his studio that very night. Brandon had the
basic chords to “Human” and laid them down
on keyboard. Stuart works fast, so he was
already putting together drum samples for us
to play over. Then, I came up with what I call
that kind of “sideways” guitar part. He had a
Yamaha acoustic-electric lying around, so I just
went for it. That’s actually the take you hear
on the album. Our manager thought it was a
looped synth part when he first heard it.
Did you use a lot of different guitars to record
Day and Age?
I used a Gibson ES-335 for most of the sessions.
On previous records we had tuned the
guitars down a half-step to Eb [Eb, Ab, Db, Gb,
Bb, Eb, low to high], but on this one we were
mostly in standard tuning, and my 335 is the
guitar that I keep in standard tuning live. That’s
a nylon-string on “I Can’t Say,” and the prechorus
of “Spaceman.” I prefer the sound of a
nylon-string to a steel-string. Live, I thought
of putting the acoustic guitar on the stand, but
I opted to just play the parts on electric, at least
for now.
What do you feel is the most unique or unusual
thing about your playing?
I’m certainly not the only modern guitarist
who does this, but one thing I try to do is avoid
power chords and straight barre chords. I’m
always looking for unusual voicings, and I try
to be as inventive as I can without over-thinking
it. I’ve actually noticed quite a few wrong
versions of my guitar parts making the rounds
as tablature and sheet music. “When You Were
Young,” for example, is not this [plays F, Gm,
Am and C as a 6th-string-root barre chord progression
up the neck]. It’s this [plays a similar
progression, re-voicing the chords with a sliding
grip that has his thumb playing the root
note, and the third and fourth fingers covering
the 5th and octave on the A and D strings
respectively, and the first string throughout.)
What guitar part on the new album are you most
proud of?
I’m pretty psyched about the “Losing Touch”
solo, largely because the other band members
reacted so positively to it. I did that solo on a
practice take running through a DigiTech
Whammy pedal and the other guys said, “That’s
it! That’s the one. You are not redoing it.” I did
have to go back and relearn it to play it live,
though.
Has your rig gotten bigger as you’ve searched
for new sounds?
I don’t think I use too many unusual
sounds or have that big of a rig, but I suppose
that is changing. I’ve been a Fender Hot Rod
DeVille guy since Hot Fuss. There are other
amps I could use but I’m comfortable with
the DeVille and know how to make it sound
good. On some songs I will mix it up with
Hiwatts for a heavier sound. Most of my pedals
go out to all of my amps, but the chorus
only runs to the DeVille for clean tones. I use
an Ibanez Analog Delay and a Boss Digital
Delay for ambience on soaring lead stuff. I
don’t know if it’s out of laziness or what, but
they stay on the same settings the whole show.
This current tour is the first tour where I’m
using a MIDI controller to switch patches
instead of doing the pedalboard dance and turning
three different things on and off at once.
Sometimes you can get good sounds just
by keeping it simple, though. Awhile back
we had to play through a makeshift practice
rig because our main stuff was already on
the road waiting for us at the venue. I had a
delay with a different setting that produced
a really good reverb sound, and I wound up
incorporating that sound on our most recent
Live from Abbey Road session.
You did a well-received Live from Abbey Road
acoustic session back in 2006. I’m guessing you’re
going electric this time around?
Yes. For this one it’s us playing electric
along with a 20-piece string orchestra. In
the arrangement of “Human,” the strings
are playing my guitar line.
You’ve stated that much of Day and Age was
written by exchanging Logic Pro demos via e-mail.
Do you guys ever jam live or in the studio?
“Losing Touch” came out of a jam, and
“Goodnight, Travel Well” started around this
little guitar idea that I had and kept building
off of. Eventually that riff got dropped
from the song completely, but it served as
the initial spark. Live, we extend the beginning
of “Joyride,” and “Spaceman” has an
extra minute or so of guitar soloing. Had we
played the song before recording, it probably
would’ve wound up on the record that
way. I don’t think too many bands write new
material on the road and work it into the set
anymore. I guess because audiences no
longer have the patience to listen to things
they’re not familiar with.
Are there other guitar styles you explore—or
would like to explore—outside the scope of the
Killers’ music?
No, not really. I suppose that whenever a
kid is learning guitar he wants to be the next
Angus Young—and that’s what I wanted to
be, too, initially—but not every song is going
to be built around long solos and “Thunderstruck”-
style intros. I loved Billy Joel’s music
growing up and that didn’t have a lot of guitar
in it. I’m very happy just playing for the
song. If there’s a great song, you shouldn’t
ruin it by stepping all over the melody.
What I like about being in the Killers is
that we can explore a lot of different styles
but still keep our sound, so I’m always challenged.
For me, the paradigm of a band that
retains its signature sound but is still stylistically
diverse is Queen, as opposed to,
say—and I mean this with all due respect—
the Ramones, where it’s the same basic
formula over and over again.
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