IT’S ONE OF THOSE “ONLY IN L.A.” PHENOMENA:
It’s pushing midnight, and Kevin Eubanks—the guy who earlier in the day did his zillionth
taping of The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and is
probably, at this very moment, being watched
by millions of people across the country—is
perched right in front of you at the cozy jazz
club known as the Baked Potato. He’s sitting
on a tiny stage that is no taller than a pint glass,
and he’s playing guitar. Tonight, the vibe is so
friendly and intimate it might as well be
Eubanks’ living room. Here, the Tonight Show
musical director is no longer the most visible
guitar player in America. He’s just a guitar
player.
When the music kicks into high gear—which it does almost immediately—the band’s
energy is intense, the improvisations are epic,
and there are no commercial breaks. It’s a
chance to find out what really drives and
inspires the bandleader and onscreen muse of
the most famous talk show host in the country.
Tonight, Eubanks doesn’t have to answer
to any producers or committees who might
have an opinion on which direction his music
takes. Whether it’s bluegrass, Coltrane, or Sly
and the Family Stone that’s giving him inspiration
at a given moment, he can open up and
let the sparks fly.
A few days later, Eubanks is at a low key
Italian restaurant near NBC’s Burbank studios,
pondering something he is about to receive for
the first time in 17 years: a vacation. Jay Leno’s
show—which has been running continuously
all 17 years with never more than a two-week
break—is being re-imagined for its new time
slot and new incarnation, as Conan O’Brien
will soon (and certainly by the time you read
this) have taken over hosting The Tonight Show.
Eubanks will use part of this respite to consider
the creative avenues his band will take
on the new show (simply called The Jay Leno
Show). The guitarist also has time to ponder
the state of music in general, the state of jazz
in particular, and the pros, cons, and responsibilities
of fame.
The first song your band played at the Potato the
other night was hypnotizing, because it was really
just a single riff—an elaborate rock riff, almost,
but very loose and swinging—that you guys played
over and over, built upon, and took way out.
That tune’s called “The Dancing Sea.”
When we play, we really let ourselves
breathe. We jump in and see where the
energy of the given night takes us. And the
more we can ride that energy, and the more
we can ride that wave, the more things happen
that never happened before. There aren’t
many places like the Baked Potato in existence
right now—places where both the
band and the audience are hearing the music
for the first time. It’s nice to have a spot
where musicians are really free to create
something new.
We have a lot of songs, but sometimes
we’ll just play the beginning of a song, and
if somebody hears something else, we follow
that and see where it takes us. We want
it to go somewhere brand new. It’s almost
like the song structure is only there in case
we need it. What we’re really trying to do is
improvise a new structure. We only play the
whole song as a last resort. [Laughs.]
At the Baked Potato, you were using different
gear than the Mesa/Boogie rig you use on TV.
Yeah, for my solo shows, I use a custom
preamp called the DMS-1 that I designed
with Bruce Seifried of Eclair Engineering. I
was at a jam, and someone was using one
of Eclair’s Evil Twin tube direct boxes. I
liked it so much, I called the number on the
back, got in touch with Bruce, and convinced
him to build me a custom preamp. He works
by himself in his shop, like Abe Rivera, who
builds my guitars, so he said it would only
be worth his while if he built a run of five
of them, so now I have four extras! The preamp
has a very detailed compression
section—a series of compressors, actually,
individually focusing on lows, mids, and
highs. I run it into a Stewart 100-watt power
amp. The compression lets me have tons of
sustain without the tone being distorted.
It’s a sound I envisioned specifically for my
solo band.
What does “DMS” stand for?
“Dat’s My Sh*t.” [Laughs.]
Having a steady national TV gig for so many
years and counting has to be great, but have you
ever felt you could have done more with your own
music over all this time if you’d been writing,
recording, and touring full time?
I’d have to answer yes, even though we
play out a lot throughout the year, and we
do fly-aways on weekends. I do miss touring
around and being on festivals with other
bands, getting instant feedback from people,
and seeing other groups play, but the
Potato is kind of like our home base where
we keep everything burning. Plus, I have a
studio in my house and record a lot. I gutted
my basement, found a Neve console in
England, and had it brought over and put
it in.
I’m always practicing and growing as an
artist, but sometimes there are so many unrealistic
pressures brought to bear on artists.
Some people seem to think that if you are
economically successful then, by definition,
you’re not an artist. It’s as if being an artist
means you have to have the spirit of Van
Gogh and be locked up in a room, inaccessible
to anybody, not selling one painting
during your entire lifetime, not being heard
by one audience ever. And then, after your
neighbor’s dog finds your decrepit body, they
break into your studio and discover these 50
brilliant albums you recorded.
Is that the only definition of an artist?
Can you be an artist and be on a TV variety
show? I get letters all the time from young
people saying, “I’ve seen you on TV. Now I
want to go to college. I want to pursue
music.” It makes you feel good when you
give people hope and inspiration, and show
them that they really can become something
as a musician.
Sometimes, actually, it’s musicians who
are the most closed-minded of all. Some jazz
players seem to have this idea that “if you
can understand what I’m doing, then I’m
not doing enough.” Jazz has become sit-down
music. It used to be stand-up-and-dance
music, but we took the vocals out of it, took
the romance out of it, and in many ways took
the spirit out of it. If you don’t give listeners
an entry point, then you wind up where
jazz is now—all alone. Musically speaking,
some jazz players don’t invite people in their
front door and then they complain that
there’s nobody at their party! But the average
person on the street is different—they
love all kinds of music. That’s why I’ve always
loved it when artists like B.B. King or Willie
Nelson come on the show—they’re so inclusive
in their thinking about music.
B.B.’s certainly been on Jay Leno a few times.
Yes. When I told him that the Tonight Show
as we know it is closing, it almost seemed
to hurt him a little, because I think he feels
like me being there is a continuation of the
long line of people who brought him opportunity
in his career. I’m a huge fan of B.B.
King—how could you not be, if you’re a guitar
player?—and I feel like I couldn’t possibly
be where I am if this man hadn’t existed, or
if Wes Montgomery or George Benson hadn’t
existed. It’s a great feeling when you get
a look from B.B. King that says, “I’m proud
of you.”
You’ve seen a lot of young bands come on the
show and try to deliver an amazing performance
in three minutes. Do you have any advice for guitarists
playing on national TV for the first time?
Relax. Don’t compromise the feel of the
song by over-performing. The most important
thing is that you establish your groove
and get across the emotion of the song. And
if there’s a guitar solo, instead of saying “I’m
going to play a great solo tonight,” say, “I’m
going to play a great song tonight.”
You were catapulted from the jazz clubs to
national TV in a heartbeat, practically. What was
it like two years into the show when Branford
Marsalis stepped down as musical director, and
you were handed that role?
No one commented on it in makeup that
first day, but I was so nervous I was breaking
out in sweat—even after all the gigs and
touring I had done! I soon got more comfortable
with it, but even now, doing awards
shows or reading a teleprompter for a few
seconds just terrifies me. But I have decided
to branch out and do more industry stuff,
because I want to use whatever visibility I
have to help in the movement to get instruments
back in public schools. Pulling music
and arts out of the schools is a big problem,
because when you do that, you take the creativity
and humanity out of things. This is
a good cause for me, because I think few if
any other people in Hollywood would take
it on. So if helps put guitars in children’s
hands, I’ll learn to read a teleprompter!
[Laughs.]